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Title: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: nemeton on March 13, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
I'm about to take the plunge and have a bash (quite literally) at metal stamping  ;D even though as you know I am a bit hopeless with grownup tools!
OH has asked me to help make some kinetic sculptures for a DADA installation - along the lines of mobiles/windchimes that make noises - they'll be made from found objects and junk with a 'food' theme, which means old cutlery, pots and pans, utensils etc. We had a ball at a boot sale this morning and came home with a mound of stuff... we think it would be fun to stamp some slogans/quotes into some of the things but as most cutlery is made from stainless steel this isn't going to be entirely straightforward, is it?
I'm aware that I'll need better quality stamps than just the cheapo 'beginner' ones but beyond that I am completely ignorant of metal stamping technique so would welcome any advice about hammers, bench blocks, weatherproof ways to add colour to the lettering (assuming I manage to make any impression at all  :P) and above all any Dangerous Things I might do by accident in the process of figuring out a technique that actually works.
Am I over-thinking this? Is it more complicated than putting the die on the metal and working out how hard to whack the other end with the hammer? Do I need some particular sort of hammer? A vice to hold the spoon (or pan lid, or fish slice, or whatever) still? Is a solid metal bench block the best thing to put underneath and do I need to put anything between the bench block and the thing I'm stamping? And so on... And yes, you are allowed to laugh at my complete ignoramusness  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: Jolene on March 13, 2016, 07:13:50 PM
I've not yet found a hand stamping group on FB but there is a hand stamping stuff FS group that might be worth a nosey.....

https://www.facebook.com/groups/790516704388559/?ref=ts&fref=ts
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: Shirley on March 13, 2016, 10:19:45 PM
I don't know anything about this at all, but I do know that Ang Peterkin, of Ang's Attic, is changing her business to be all about stamping. Might be worth having a look. It's The Stamping Attic on Facebook.
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: nemeton on March 14, 2016, 04:52:14 PM
Thanks both - that's very helpful, am off to have a nosey now  :)
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: nemeton on March 18, 2016, 09:02:35 PM
Thought you might like to see the results of my experiments so far...  ;D
(apologies for cross-posting and for any pix that are still enormous, photobucket is being a pain!)
I've just discovered a new obsession thanks to an arts project that OH is involved with  ;D
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s217/retrobeader/retrobeader038/spoon20slogans_zpsiwx9mvo3.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/retrobeader/media/retrobeader038/spoon20slogans_zpsiwx9mvo3.jpg.html)

It's to do with the Dada movement and also a precursor to a community theatre production about WWI that'll be happening in May - one of the things OH is doing is building a set of 'sonic sculptures' to be temporarily installed in the local museum garden for a day of experimental music and Dadaist art on April 24. Since the theatre production is themed around food production and the lives of local people during the war, he thought that repurposed cutlery would be just the thing. So he bought a big crate of it from some bloke at a boot sale. Then he thought that perhaps if there were a way to get words onto the cutlery that would be even more the thing...

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s217/retrobeader/retrobeader038/waste20not_zpszwrmei7k.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/retrobeader/media/retrobeader038/waste20not_zpszwrmei7k.jpg.html)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s217/retrobeader/retrobeader038/eat20ate20tea_zpsfv0kj6w9.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/retrobeader/media/retrobeader038/eat20ate20tea_zpsfv0kj6w9.jpg.html)
My first attempts were woeful in the extreme (despite a lot of helpful advice from various metalworking folks and despite my having gone straight for the sort of metal dies that can apparently cope with stainless steel - that stuff is HARD!) but after a lot of experimenting, cursing, and unearthing the biggest hammer in our toolbox - and with the aid of a bench block I bought for a quid at another boot sale (it is a very venerable bench block and has the sort of interesting surface texture you'd expect for that price  ::) ) - I am starting to make an impression.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s217/retrobeader/retrobeader038/serve20just20enough_zpswp1bh8qm.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/retrobeader/media/retrobeader038/serve20just20enough_zpswp1bh8qm.jpg.html)
I am liking spoons. The curvature is a challenge and the modern ones are just ridiculously hard... but there are lots of lovely battered old ones in OH's bargain box!
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s217/retrobeader/retrobeader038/016fbf92-8ee5-4cca-b629-1eea4ab3524a_zpsz5tqaicj.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/retrobeader/media/retrobeader038/016fbf92-8ee5-4cca-b629-1eea4ab3524a_zpsz5tqaicj.jpg.html)
I'm doing experiments with sticking bits of recipes on some of them as well. As soon as you add words, they take on layers of meaning  :) The colouring is being done with acrylic paint until I feel my stamping is worthy of spending serious money on gilder's paste!

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s217/retrobeader/retrobeader038/use20what20is20left_zpsyi6gkxdz.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/retrobeader/media/retrobeader038/use20what20is20left_zpsyi6gkxdz.jpg.html)

The slogans are from a WWI information poster and are still remarkably relevant to today's societal concerns about food security, food wastage, the environmental costs of food production, and the obesity epidemic  :)

And just look at all that interesting texture!
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s217/retrobeader/retrobeader038/serve20just20enough202_zpsbqjkde1y.jpg) (http://s153.photobucket.com/user/retrobeader/media/retrobeader038/serve20just20enough202_zpsbqjkde1y.jpg.html)

Now I have to figure out a way to wire up 120 variously embellished utensils into mobiles that look interesting and (more importantly) make beautiful sounds. There's a pile of colanders and pans in the hall (results of a couple of jumble sales) and some of them look very promising. I mean, a colander is just the same as a really, really large filigree beadcap, right?  :P

Stay tuned...
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: Cornish on March 18, 2016, 10:38:47 PM
They look fabulous I love the scraps of the recipe on some, hope you'll share a pic of it all finished as I'd love to see it.   :D
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: awrylemming on March 19, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing how you progress on this, love what you've done so far  ;D
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Post by: Lynniebeads on March 19, 2016, 01:39:46 PM
There is a Facebook page called uk stamping addicts which is quite useful 😊
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Post by: Jolene on March 19, 2016, 03:21:59 PM
Looking brill :)
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: jille on March 19, 2016, 07:06:36 PM
Love them, I bought something similar for a cake loving rellie last year, she loved it
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: Pandanimal on March 21, 2016, 10:06:18 AM
That looks fabulous! I would love to come see and hear it when its up, but probably won't be able to. Can you post up a Youtube vid of it when it's done?
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: nemeton on March 23, 2016, 09:26:16 AM
I'll try to get some video footage - I think someone may be coming to film the completed installation on the day or maybe I can bribe DS to come along for a bit with his fancypants camera  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone got advice on metal stamping?
Post by: spexy on March 26, 2016, 11:42:36 AM
They look great Lynn and looks like you are having fun too x